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Discussion 16 to Talk Back 95
Reading John

by: JT

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I've been hoping that Michael would respond to PsiCop's and Kristine's latest comments, and I did write to him suggesting it. I think there is still room for a fruitful discussion.

In the meantime, I would like to respond to one of Michael's earlier suggestions - and that was if you are going to read the Bible, start with John.

This is something I actually did four years ago in response to a Billy Graham column and wrote about in Meditation 470. And what I found applies to this discussion on faith.

In John 10:24:

So the Jews gathered round him and said to him: "How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly."

And in John 10:25 - 26

Jesus answered them "I told you and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness to me; but you do not believe; because you do not belong to my sheep.

This supports my view that the whole concept of getting faith out of reading the bible is a circular operation. You already have to be one of the flock to believe. You don't find belief and then become one of the flock. It's the other way round - and Jesus certainly does not make it clear how to become one of his sheep without believing. But as to the circularity of all this, I'll happily use Jesus as the authority.