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Discussion 7 to Talk Back 55
That incompatible story

by Karen Davis

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Mr. DeLucchi says "The bible makes no mention of a "flat" earth, the bible does not "limit" creation to earth alone."

Well, the Bible I read does both. Quite specifically it tells us that God created the sun and the moon for telling time and marking seasons and the stars to lighten the night.


1: 14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

(Note - sun moon and stars were all created after light and darkness, day and night ... well, "God does not go to great lengths to describe the actual putting together of the cosmos, as really it is quite beside the point," according to Mr. DeLucchi, so we'll let that slide.)

This story is totally incompatible with any recognition of truths of cosmology as they are now known.

Mr. DeLucchi finishes by saying "I for one am very excited at the idea that maybe we are not what we have come to believe we are, we are not stuff that crawled out of a cosmic goo, we are humans and our heritage is not a rock in space." I confess to having, again, no idea what he's talking about - well, no. It sounds like some sort of Raelian seeding story or something - but it doesn't sound even a bit compatible with Genesis.

(And I don't understand why he insists it is. He invites us to be sober-minded, and then asks us to accept Noah & Co. "by some weird quirk of magic" surviving the "deluge, flood or whatever is the popular belief today". I think I'm pretty sober minded, but that means I don't believe in weird quirks of magic any more than I believe in the flood. (And if you believe in Genesis, do you really have the option of making it "whatever"? Aren't you stuck with the flood?))

But - to get back to Mr. DeLucchi and his excitement. I'm very glad for him that he had found a belief that excites him (whatever it may be). But all the evidence indicates that we did indeed "crawl out of a cosmic goo" - or at least out of the first stuff, goo or not - and I find that exciting. Evolution has created something capable of directing evolution itself - and that something is us. There is no reason to believe that we are restricted to this one rock in space for our heritage: if we break free of the superstitions and irrationalities that shackle us, we have no limits. As Isaac Asimov once said, "Humanity has the stars in its future."

And that future is ours.