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Let's get down to your questions.

by: JT

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Nathaniel:

I find it interesting that you state my article was written "ignorantly" yet you do not point out a single error of fact in it. I'm interested in knowing what is specifically wrong in the article. Every statement was based on research.

But, while we are waiting for you to respond with details, let's get down to your questions.

You're saying we weren't created by God?

Which God are you talking about? Presumably your Christian God. But are you aware there are thousands of creation myths involving numerous gods? Are you saying we weren't created by one of them? Why is your creation myth better than theirs?

I will say it is extremely unlikely that humankind was created directly by your god - or anybody else's. As to whether an intelligence of some kind initiated the universe, and thus indirectly created us, that I consider slightly more probable but still quite unlikely. I don't rule out the possibility entirely. Indeed, as research in physics proceeds it is considered theoretically possible that we will have to power to create universes in the not-to-distant future. We cannot rule out that our universe was created in a laboratory in another universe.

Or Christ didn't die for us?

I highly doubt it. The story of a god dying and being resurrected is a myth found in many religions older than Christianity.

Moses didn't even exist? Or Paul?

I have no idea whether Moses existed or not. It is possible that he is based in part on an oral tradition about a prehistoric tribal leader of the Israelites. Paul, however, probably was a real historical person.

I'm just confused. If you don't believe the Bible, that's fine. That's what you believe. Based on that, you should believe that the Bible is false, no if's ands or buts. But you're an agnostic. You doubt it. Based on your statements made, you're an atheist.

You are quite right you are confused. Essentially you are saying that if someone does not believe the Bible completely then that person must disbelieve the Bible completely. This is a false dichotolmy. Not even Christian theologians believe the Bible to be completely factual. Just read the footnotes (presuming you have a good enough Bible) where passages in dispute are discussed and alternate translations are provided. Christians cannot even agree amongst themselves on which passages are literal truth and which are metaphorical. Also, you show your lack of knowledge about the religions of the majority of people in the world when you indicate that rejection of the your god and your bible makes a person an atheist. It is possible to reject Christianity and still believe in a god - as other religions do. It is also possible to reject all religions and still recognize the possibility, however remote, of a deity.

I am an agnostic, not an atheist.