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Discussion 7 to Meditation 797
Nearly all creation stories describe physical processes

by: Kristine Robinson

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Hi Will.

Just a couple of things from your response:

"God is not the most well-defined term in the world, but just about every religion I can think of describes their God or gods as being innately mental. "

I am unsure how you make this determination.  The Bible has God creating humans through physical processes (Gen 2:7 Then the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.)  Norse creation myth has the Earth created from the corpse of Ymir.  Egyptian mythology (this one is specifically from Heliopolis) has the earth and sky formed from an eternal copulation of the god Geb and the goddess Nut.  Far from being innately mental, there are specific physical descriptions of how gods created the Earth through every creation myth I've been able to find, and some myths have their gods actually living on Earth, e.g. Mount Olympus, or in places accessible from Earth.  Most, I admit, do not go so far as explaining the creation of anything beyond the Solar System, and treat the Earth as synonymous with the Universe.  I am simply extending that to be all-encompassing: if the gods found it necessary to form the Earth through causal factors, does it not then apply that there must have been causation when creating the Universe also? 

 Thus, if Marcellino wants to prove the existence of God, it is necessary for him to demonstrate that mental processes can have a direct impact on the world.  Unfortunately, Marcellino stated that he was "going to present an overall proof of the existence of God from the perspectives of science, logic and direct observations of how nature operates".  He didn't even try your particular line of thought.  Not in the chapter I was critiquing, at least.

"I haven't read Marcellino."

I wouldn't have, either, if this bit of chapter 3 were not free to view.  But considering that you were almost the first person to chime into this discussion, you have, if only a little bit.  If it weren't for the absolute thrashing you gave to the original piece of Marcellino's work that John posted, I might have chosen another portion to chew on. 

Otherwise, thank you.  I rather look forward to the day that someone proves magic works.