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Discussion 2 to Meditation 404
Accept there is no proper answer

by Maarten van den Driest

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Well, it all boils down to what you are prepared to accept as evidence, doesn't it?

This is the crux of many a debate in the faith-science arena. For most devout believers God's love is quite evident in every day life. They have experienced, felt His love and can testify as to God working in their lifes.

Most rationalists won't accept any such 'proof' at all basically - I avoid carefully saying 'scientists' here, there are believing scientists all over the place.

The way out of this mess is to finally accept there is no proper answer. Faith cannot be tried by science and science certainly not by any faith-based system. Period.

The best way of answering, I find, in discussions regarding ID or any other crazy idea made up by our neighbourhood zealots is to firmly state that you will not enter the debate as their claims are unprovable as well as irrefutable in the first place.

You may get your point with the canyons but, I have said this before, that doesn't help at all. Fundamentalists (again, I avoid saying Christians as there are reasonable ones to be found) are already sure of their own set of 'truths'. No amount of cajoling, proving, debunking or what have you will ever sway them from the path of their righteous ultra-truth.

I enjoy reading debunking scripture sites and their ilk, if only because it tells me others like me exist and they also fight against the cloud of orthodoxy that threatens us all. Sadly enough, a lot of their efforts are wasted.

I'd like to end on three points:

  1. Not all Christians are alike, please say fundamentalist when you mean that.
  2. Fundamentalists work with an entirely different concept of truth. Take that into account.
  3. Give up trying to prove anything to them. It doesn't work.