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Discussion 5 to Meditation 282
Re: The Truth, The Immaterial, and Agnostics

by Gabriel

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Paul raises the example of people in the Dark Ages. We know that some people lived in that time because we have archaeological and documental evidence of their existence.

We do not "assume that more people lived and worked and died in this time than we can account for", we extrapolate from existing data (eg Remains of housing, town sizes, records etc) to estimate how many people lived, worked and died during that time.

What Paul seems to be suggesting is that historians have arbitrarily fixed a number for the population at the time. Nothing could be further from the truth - historians give estimates based on existing data.

Meanwhile Jorge misunderstands the point that the case of the invisible, immaterial, undetectable pink bunnies makes: it is immaterial what the colour of the bunnies is, or how we know what their colour is.

Atheists are not the ones trying to prove the existence of undetectable entities; to us, there is no reason to assume undetectable entities might exist.

If one is agnostic about the Christian god, one would be agnostic about the Greek, Norse and Egyptian gods and many many more. Taking the agnostic philosophy to its fullest extent, the only defensible position left would be epistemological nihilism: since one must withhold judgment about entities for which no evidence exists, one should also suspend judgment for entities for which evidence exists, since such evidence might be erroneous, mistakenly interpreted or subject to change.